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Rateh
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my school we teach bouncing for point sparring, and not bouncing for continuous sparring.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

May I ask why? I see no value added by bouncing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The theory is, since point fighting is a game of tag, then if your light on your feet then you will be faster. We call it bouncing but that doesn't mean jumping up and down, it means being on the balls of your feet moving slightly back and forth. I'd say it works since our students always do really well in competition, both point and continuous.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rateh wrote:
The theory is, since point fighting is a game of tag, then if your light on your feet then you will be faster. We call it bouncing but that doesn't mean jumping up and down, it means being on the balls of your feet moving slightly back and forth. I'd say it works since our students always do really well in competition, both point and continuous.


This is more of how we refer to it as well. Staying light, on the balls of your feet, so that you are ready to react and move.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well it would be good if you wanted to build up your stamina and leg muscles, but if you wanted to take him down quick no, because all has to do is hit you harde enough to nock you down if your not bonuncing then you can stay on the floor better.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You got that right. Mr. Leg Sweep, meet Mr. Bouncy. Take down!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll do it sometimes as a psychological thing. If my opponent is starting to look tired, I'll speed up and start moving around out of range. Even then though, my feet don't leave the mat. It's more the weight shifting back and forth(not up and down). A lot of times they'll try to speed up as well and that tires them further.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lordtariel wrote:
I'll do it sometimes as a psychological thing. If my opponent is starting to look tired, I'll speed up and start moving around out of range. Even then though, my feet don't leave the mat. It's more the weight shifting back and forth(not up and down). A lot of times they'll try to speed up as well and that tires them further.


That's a good strategy!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi mind tricks! Always good.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you bounce, then you are commited to a set timing. Anyone who is good enough can dirupt your timing and take you while you are not grounded. Ive seen a lot of knock downs done this way is point sparring matches; catch them when they can't do anything.
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